Interviewed series by Talyaa Liera 2011 — on maters arising from the work in Paradox Cure
Where shall we start today?
Which do you really want? Enlightenment? Are you sure? For some spiritual seekers, it seems that enlightenment is about some spiritual orgasm, an euphoric bliss, which is a romantic view but not what seems to happen. I’d rather call what happens ENDARKENMENT. Endarkenment is the end to the pursuit of the spiritual orgasm, accepting the darkness of reality — a void without lies. In this place, possibility is vast and magical. What do you think you are going to do after being “Enlightened”? 
I want to live in a more magical place, a place of possibility. This magical place is about expanding my mind’s view and life perspective — that so much more is possible — going from a world of LIMITED options to almost LIMITLESS options. Realize we are the creators of our experience, and can experience so much more awesomeness in life. I am talking to myself here too! What makes this so hard to talk about is that I am about to talk about information that people — don’t know that they don’t know. I am referring to something taught by Landmark Education Corporation, similar to a model called the Johari’s window, that classifies the three arenas of information.
- I know that I know
- I know that I don’t know
- I don’t know that I don’t know
Much that I offer exists in the largest and quite vast category – I don’t know that I don’t know. I can talk about benefits of The Paradox Cure. However, because the best benefits live in the arena of information of what you don’t know that you don’t know, there is nothing to relate the benefits to. It’s like balance on a bike. It’s hard to talk about balance on a bike, because balance is an experience — little to relate it to. Until one experiences balance, a person does not know that they don’t know balance.
Most people seem to have a romantic fantasy of what enlightenment is. It is inaccurate. The concept of enlightenment for many people is often a pursuit of what I call a spiritual orgasm. Enlightenment is an experience, it is not a spiritual orgasm, which is that romantic view about enlightenment. Enlightenment is more of a sober waking up to the nature of one’s personal reality than any kind of euphoric state of bliss.
What am I talking about? As I say these words, I realize I am attempting to communicate that an entire other world of experience that only appears for people when they stop resisting, and accept their magnificent essence, their original nature. However, I find it hard to use words to describe something that people don’t know that they don’t know. I cannot adequately communicate the best benefits of evolving oneself consciously from principle of acceptance in The Paradox Cure.
Talk About Faith
This discussion brings up one word: faith. Perhaps trust is a better word, but no — it’s not trust, it is faith. Faith is believing in something that one cannot understand. Someone could trust what I am saying is true and real, but not understand.
Faith is believing that something amazing and wonderful is possible while knowing that there’s no way to truly understand it until one experiences it. I don’t think my life is a good example of demonstrating the benefits of what I offer yet, because I need to work through my own demons around putting myself out while I offer The Paradox Cure. The Paradox Cure works, amazingly so — my life not so good.
As I offer The Paradox Cure, which is my purpose, my dharma, I endeavor to accept my demons. I hope people will look past the messenger of the Paradox Cure — me — and look at what The Paradox Cure offers. Probably the scariest and most unreasonable thing that I could say is that The Paradox Cure offers a legitimate path to accept our own nature, a necessary part of enlightenment.
Do people come to you FOR an experience? Or because they have this trust, or faith, or however you call it, that they can really tap into their magnificent essence?
I did have people come to me, because they said there was something they felt I had, or they wanted something they thought I was experiencing.
I am reminded of the scene in the movie, When Harry Met Sally, when Meg Ryan fakes an orgasm in the restaurant and the woman across the way says, “I’ll have what she’s having.”
Most people think they are coming to get rid of pain. What I know to be more accurate at a deeper level is that people don’t just want to get out of pain. People truly want to FEEL and BE most ALIVE. People don’t just want to get rid of hurt — they want to feel great! They want to feel amazing, very alive.
Truly, I think that’s all anyone wants, at their core. Another way to say what people want, is people want to experience themselves fully — the truth of who they are.
But isn’t that the very thing that scares most people?
That’s what people think. They are mistaken. People think being fully alive is scary. What they’re really scared of is FEELING their own resistance to life — their pain. It’s ironic. People come to me wanting to get out of their pain, and the first thing they’re going to get working on with me is more of their pain — thrown in their face in the kindest way I can.
The paradox of The Paradox Cure is that what people most don’t want, their pain, is exactly what they must face to get out of pain. They have to FEEL their pain. There’s an old saying that speaks to this paradox: the way out is the way in. Or as Joseph Campbell eloquently calls in one of the stages of his Hero’s Journey model, “the belly of the whale”
The belly of the whale represents the final separation from the hero’s known world and self. By entering this stage, the person shows willingness to undergo a metamorphosis. — Joseph Campbell
Bottom line — what people want, they will get when they face their demons. A demon is what they are most afraid of, and what hurts them the most. In fact, the fastest way I help anyone radically change and evolve is to uncover the scariest and most painful thing they have resisted all their life. I can do that with most people in under 20 minutes, but few are willing to rip the metaphorical band-aid off their soul and feel the strong sting of their hurts and fears – the band-aid of their own resistance to their essence.
Enlightenment is usually about the spiritual orgasm, but ENDARKENMENT is the end to the pursuit of the spiritual orgasm, accepting the darkness of reality — a void without lies. In this place, possibility is vast and magic becomes accessible.
What is a spiritual orgasm?
A spiritual orgasm, or cosmic big-O, is some huge blissful euphoric climax of “everything is now okay, awesome, great, I’ve achieved it, I’ve got it! now I’m done! I’ve made it!” Many who are on a spiritual path falsely pursue a spiritual orgasm but don’t know it. Many spiritual seekers pursue this cosmic big-O wrapped up in the words such as — enlightenment, truth, nirvana, or oneness with god.
This whole notion of enlightenment is usually a romantic fantasy in most seeker’s heads — fun to think about, but not what happens with enlightenment. I’d rather call enlightenment — ENDARKENMENT. Let’s become endarkened! Endarkenment is about accepting the darkness of all of our bullshit and lies we tell ourselves. When someone is endarkened they have stopped lying to themselves. They claim their personal truth in all experiences.
How do you convince people to face their own pain?
When I am with them in person it’s a lot easier, because my conviction and being can communicate what they often recognize as their personal truth. In other words, when someone hears me or another say something that contains personal truth for them, hearing that triggers specific physiological responses. When I speak someone else’s truth — that their way out of pain is to face their pain — and it rings true for that person, then that person knows it is their personal truth through their own body’s responses. They know and their body convinces them to face their own pain.
Everybody has their own flavorful, colorful, unique, scintillating ways of lying to themselves about what their personal truth is, until it is spoken by another. For example, if they read something I’ve written, it’s easier for them to lie to themselves than if they heard from me in person. A personal connection, the in-person/video connection, makes it harder for them to lie to themselves — way harder.
My next step to convince people to face their pain obviously is to video me helping others claim their personal truth through The Paradox Cure, and how facing one’s pain works so well, it seems like magic.
Then we are back to the woman who wanted what Meg Ryan was having, yes? When people observe you helping others, they have a sense of what they can have for themselves? Does this feel complete to you? We came back to close a circle.
One circle is complete. Yet another circle, to me, is incomplete. That circle is — how do I best communicate that what most people are living is a shell of the magnificent life they could have? It is through the lies they tell to themselves that keep people living a shell of a life. I’m betting some readers going over those last words have emotion rise up in their bodies, for they can feel the spark of their own truth in my words.
When people are honest with themselves by stopping the lies they tell themselves, they understand they are living a shell of what is possible. I believe too many people are living a shell of the life. But, one can FEEL and BE most ALIVE.